Dongguan starts to crack down on illegal foreign teachers
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Dongguan's police, education and human resources authorities on March 10 launched a 10-month campaign aimed at cracking down illegal foreign teachers among schools around the city.
The campaign, set to last to December this year, will target foreign teachers who do not have the appropiate visa and work permit as well as those kindergartens, primary schools and secondary schools which hire foreign teachers without a certificate from the government. Language training schools will not be targeted in this crack down.......
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Permalink Reply by Julio Cesar Maldonado on -
I agree with setting the situation straight. Many schools and teachers have had a good time for too long... "looping" the system. The government is doing the right thing.
But the fact is that foreign teachers are needed, wanted. The demand for professionally trained teachers is skyrocketing right now. But many schools don't offer visas because it's too hard/expensive to apply for one.
How about the government DOES something to change the procedures? ...make it easier for schools to get the license, then everything will be fine. There will be the much needed control/protection of and for foreign teachers.
Just my humble opinion.
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Permalink Reply by Sunny Jane Rose on -
Julio my daughters teacher Osman was caught up in this crackdown and it saddens me deeply. He may or may not have the right certificate but Sunny's English was developing at an unbelievable pace. Also I have never in my life met a teacher that loves children so much. Also why are they not cracking down on the ilegal teachers in the language schools where the problem is absolutely rife. I will be using my guan xi to lobby the Dongguan government. I will also be doing everything in my power to help teacher Osman the right paperwork. One of the photos shows my father Peter in conversation with Osman.
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Permalink Reply by Morvin on -
I'm sorry to hear that. I met many foreign teachers in Dongguan, and I have to say that they are kind and are doing great job in teaching language here. Don't worry. If they are caught up, usually they would be released after being fined a sum of money. The worst thing would be that they may be asked to leave China if they don't have a visa.
After all, don't be too lazy to apply for a work permit before you get a job here. The Government may carry some responsiblity for the long time for foreigners to get a work permit, but your laziness could bring yourself trouble sometimes. Our Chinese have to get the propper work permit if we want to work in other countries.
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Permalink Reply by Julio Cesar Maldonado on
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Correction to your reply, Morvin.
No individual teacher can apply for a work visa by him/herself. Only schools with a license to employ foreign experts can apply for and on behalf of a teacher. It is the law of China. It's NOT, as you mention, the laziness of foreign teachers.
And it works both ways...you, as a Chinese person, cannot apply for a work visa in a western country unless you are sponsored by a company.
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Permalink Reply by Julio Cesar Maldonado on
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You're welcome Morvin and thank you for your initial posting.
Further to what I mentioned above, it is possible for a foreigner to apply for his/her own RESIDENCE PERMIT provided that he or she can prove he/she posses skills which are difficult to find in the city/country. Of course there are many other requirements, not just this one.
Yet again, a residence permit does not allow you to get employment, since it is not a work visa per se. The only connection between the two is that your residence permit allows you to stay in China EVEN IF your work visa has expired and if its expiry date runs longer. But you may not work WITHOUT a work visa...you are only entitled to stay in the country.
By the way, someone mentioned something about an article about this issue being published on Dongguan Daily today (March 22), care to help us translate the main ideas, Morvin?
Cheers,
J
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Permalink Reply by Morvin on
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Hi, Julio. Dongguan Daily didn't have an article for the issue, but Dongguan Times did. It decribes the interview between a foreign teacher in Winnerway Kindergarten and several government officials. The foreign teacher was found teaching English in the Kintergarden with a travel visa.
The report also discusses the policy that only schools can apply working visa for foreigners, and the complicated process of applying a working visa.
One thing is very important in the report. Many education services deceive foreigners that they can apply working visa for them before those foreigners arrive in China for the job. And some serives lie to foreigners that they are government-related language training centers and ensure them that they would be fine to work there without a working visa.
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Permalink Reply by Steve on -
I have now clarified this issue.
The schools did not have a permit to employ foreign teachers.
The schools therefore did not have the authority to apply for the work visas for the teachers.
The teachers are clearly the victims in all this as it would be the responsibility of the employer (in this case the school) to apply for the working visa.
Alot of good teachers including Sunny's teacher Osman have lost their livelyhood as a result of the negliglence of the schools.
It is very clear that the teachers are the victims and that the authorities should be going after the schools.
Also why are the foreign language schools ignored where this problem is rife?
Please spare a thought for the poor teachers.
Yours in Peace
Steve
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